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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:24 pm    Post subject: Anzac Day - NS Players Killed in Battle Reply with quote

Today's Daily Telegraph has an article by David Middleton on first grade players from NSW and Queensland who have been killed in battle. Seven North Sydney players are mentioned - the text of their entries is below. I've also included links to the details for each on the Roll of Honour on the Australian War Memorial website. As they say, Lest We Forget.

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Vince Edwards: Edwards appeared for North Sydney in the year of the club's last premiership win in 1922 and three years later joined the Navy. He died at sea on March 1, 1942 when HMAS Perth was torpedoed by the Japanese off the coast of Java.
http://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/roll_of_honour/person.asp?p=524853

Artie Carnell: Carnell played fullback for North Sydney at age 21 in 1930. A decade later he was posted to 2/14 Infantry Battalion in New Guinea. He was killed in action at the Battle for Milne Bay on August 31, 1942.
http://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/roll_of_honour/person.asp?p=544942

Harry Allwork: An English-born forward, Allwork played 16 top-grade games for North Sydney in 1933-34 before enlisting in the army in 1940. He was killed in action at El Alamein, Egypt, on October 31, 1942.
http://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/roll_of_honour/person.asp?p=544714

Ken Wood: Wood was a centre for North Sydney between 1928-34. He enlisted in the Army in Brisbane in 1940 and was a sergeant with the 2/25 Australian Infantry Battalion when killed in heavy fighting at Gorari in New Guinea on November 11, 1942.
http://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/roll_of_honour/person.asp?p=543430

Alf Birtles: Birtles had played 50 first-grade games as a winger for North Sydney between 1933-37 before he enlisted with the RAAF in 1941. A Flying Officer aboard a Halifax bomber, he was killed in a battle over Germany on August 28, 1943.
http://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/roll_of_honour/person.asp?p=553760

Gerry Atwell: Atwell played for Norths in 1940, a year before he joined the RAAF. By 1944 he was a pilot officer with the 614 Squadron RAF and was killed in an air battle near Italy on April 20, 1944.
http://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/roll_of_honour/person.asp?p=551923

Neville Butler: A NSW fullback in 1938, Tenterfield-born Butler played for Norths between 1940-43 while he was training with the RAAF in Sydney. He was flying officer with the 460 Squadron and was killed on November 29, 1944, when his plane was shot down over Germany.
http://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/roll_of_honour/person.asp?p=552815
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for that Fintan..is there any details of service men from Norths in the later conflicts..Korea, Vietnam..
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lest we forget
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great stuff Fintan,

Copied from the inside front page of the:
60th Annual report and Financial statement of the North Sydney District Rugby League Football Club. [for presentation at the AGM to be held Wednesday, 6th December 1967]


Honor Roll
World War II - 1939 - 1945
They gave their lives that others may live

Allwork, H.
Armstrong, P.
Atwell, G.
Birtles, A.
Butler, N
Carmody, R.
Carnell, A.
Edwards, V.
Greenwood, L.J
Griffin, T
Higham, G.
Maubon, J.
Morrison, R. (Bob)
Neville, E
O'Sullivan, E.
Pettiford, K.
Wilson, D.
Wood, K.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Allwork, H. [Harry, 16 first grade games 1933 to 34, 2 tries]
Atwell, G. [Gerry Atwill, 2 first grade games 1940]
Birtles, A. [Alf, 50 first grade games 1933 to 37 for 31 tries & a goal.]
Butler, N [Neville, 13 first grade games 1940 to 43, 10 goals and a NSW rep pre Norths]
Carnell, A. [Arthur, 6 first grade games 1930]
Edwards, V. [Vince Edwards, 3 games 1922]
Greenwood, L.J [lots of Greenwood's played for Norths]
Neville, E [Eric, 7 first grade games 1938 to 40]
Pettiford, K. [a person of the same name played 1 first grade game for University in 1937, a Norths lower grader?, there is a previous generation's W Pettiford-a first grader in 1909]
Wood, K. [Ken, 68 first grade games 1928 to 34, 15 tries]

Presumably the others were grade players, club officials, members of the football club generally.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neville Butler played in the 43 GF..
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kodiaks wrote:
thanks for that Fintan..is there any details of service men from Norths in the later conflicts..Korea, Vietnam..


Not aware of one, the 1960's Annual Reports would have mentioned the Korean Campaign deaths if they had occurred. Statistically considering the numbers serving/dying in WWI and WWII compared to later conflicts, there'd be few RL grade players lot alone first graders across any club.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/roll_of_honour/person.asp?p=560099

is the only K.Pettiford to die in WWII

http://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/roll_of_honour/person.asp?p=526940

is the only person with a surname of Higham to die in WWII, and he is also initial G.Higham

http://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/roll_of_honour/person.asp?p=532839

James Edwin Maubon is the only Maubon to die in WWII, so that matches with the J.Maubon

http://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/roll_of_honour/person.asp?p=552158

is the only LJ Greenwood to die in WWII

http://www.awm.gov.au/research/people/roll_of_honour/person.asp?p=534585

is the only Eric Neville to die in WWII

The other 4 diggers named in the 1967 Annual Report have surnames too common to pin down with a first initial only [Armstrong, Griffin, Morrison & O'Sullivan].
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found this site from the National Archives of Australia - "Mapping Our Anzacs" at http://mappingouranzacs.naa.gov.au. It has names, details, photos and service records of the original Anzacs. It's described as "a tool to browse 375,971 records of service in the Australian Army during World War I according to the persons place of birth or enlistment."
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With Anzac Day fast approaching, perhaps time to resurrect this thread.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An Anzac day bump
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lest We Forget these great people.
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I went to a performance this evening that was set against the backdrop of World War I, conscription and rugby league. Players that got mentioned were from mainly from the Glebe club, including Frank Burge who later coached North Sydney.

Another link with the NS district was Ted Larkin who was a Rugby League administrator and who, in December 1913, won the state seat of Willougby in the NSW parliament, the first time Labor had won a seat in the northern suburbs. Larkin was living in Milsons Point at the time. The reason he got mentioned is because he was one of only three serving politicians who served in the war. He had enlisted in August 1914 and was killed at Gallipoli on 25th December 1915.

The performance starts with a reference to Bob Tidyman who played for Eastern Suburbs and was killed in France in November 1916.

The performance is by the Griffin Ensemble - its leader, Michael Sollis, used to play for the Gungahlin Bulls in the local Canberra comp. The performance is interspersed with video footage from WWI era as well as interviews with current Gungahlin Bulls players, some of whom would have been the same age as some of the soldiers at Gallipoli. One thing I learnt was that the back of the Bulls jersey has the logo of North Canberra Bears on the back, above the number.

The SMH published a preview report (reprinted from the Canberra Times) on 15th April - www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/griffyn-ensembles-the-dirty-red-digger-looks-at-war-and-rugby-20150415-1mjr68.html.

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www.griffynensemble.com/rugby-league-remembrance

The Dirty Red Digger

Belconnen Arts Centre
Sat 25th April 5:00pm, Sun 26th April 5:00pm
Rugby League Remembrance

Conscription, class war, and Rugby League. Live music, archival footage, and documentary film combine in The Dirty Red Digger: The story of World War I in Australia through events in Rugby League between 1914 and 1918. From the working class tenements in 'Dirty Red' Glebe, the divisive Prime Minister Billy Hughes, and the traitor/hero status of boxer Les Darcy, this special multimedia event explores the battle for Australian identity and the Anzac legacy. Comparing the stories of young men in the trenches with young men today, this is a special event not to be missed.

The Dirty Red Digger is a groundbreaking collaboration that sees Rugby League communities collaborate with art music, exploring the struggle for Australian identity during World War 1, and the challenges of young men today and a hundred years ago. The program features music that we know was played during WW1 in Australia, and Australian music that has been written since. With over 40 minutes of archival footage and a series of interviews with young men and women, this will be premiered in Canberra and then tour nationally.

It is with regret that I forward the following: Two months ago, I picked up an old Rugby League membership ticket, with the name R. Tidyman on it. Nearby we discovered the body of one of our boys. There was nothing else to help in identification, so we buried him and marked the spot. Sunday Times, 4 April 1917
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Anzac Day - NS Players Killed in Battle Reply with quote

The NRL website has a short article on Ken Wood who played 1st grade for North Sydney from 1928-34 (68 games 15 tries 45 pts). He enlisted in the army in 1940 when he was living in Brisbane.

This thread started on Sat 24th April 2010 and quoted an article in that day's Daily Telegraph. I included links to the details on the Roll of Honour on the Australian War Memorial website:

Fintan O'Laighin wrote:
Ken Wood: Wood was a centre for North Sydney between 1928-34. He enlisted in the Army in Brisbane in 1940 and was a sergeant with the 2/25 Australian Infantry Battalion when killed in heavy fighting at Gorari in New Guinea on November 11, 1942.
www.awm.gov.au/research/people/roll_of_honour/person.asp?p=543430

The NRL article has an accompanying video but it didn't work on either of the browsers I tried.

Sunday's game at NSO was preceded with an Anzac commemoration, and the names of a number of North Sydney players were read out, including Ken Wood.

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www.nrl.com/kokoda-connections-ken-wood/tabid/10874/newsid/105986/default.aspx



Kokoda connections: Ken Wood
Mon 24 Apr, 2017, 10:00am
‌‌‌NRL.com

Kenneth Wood was born in Petersham, Sydney in 1906.

He began his first grade career with North Sydney in 1928 and finished with Norths in 1934. He played seven years with 'The Shoremen' (as they were known before adopting the Bears nickname), scoring 15 tries in 68 games as a centre-three-quarter.

Wood played representative football for Metropolis against New Zealand in 1930 and was selected to play in the NSW tour of QLD, however did not appear in the interstate clash.

He enlisted in the Army in mid-1940 when he was living at Gregory Terrace, Brisbane working as an auctioneer's clerk.

After army training he embarked in early 1941 for the Middle East with 2/25th Battalion and served for eight months there. During this time he was promoted to Sergeant, before being returned to Australia.

Wood returned home for just 10 days before heading off to New Guinea to face the Japanese.

In September, the 2/25th was thrown headfirst into the battles on the Kokoda Track, and participated in the withdrawal to Imita Ridge before the Australians then turned the tables and began to push the Japanese back at Templeton's Crossing in October and then Gorari.

On the final day of that fierce battle, November 11 – Remembrance Day, Ken Wood was killed in action. He is buried at the Bomana war cemetery in Port Moresby.

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