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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 10:36 pm    Post subject: Return of the Bears back on NRL Agenda Reply with quote

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/return-of-the-north-sydney-bears-back-on-nrl-agenda-20151027-gkjq81.html

Return of the Bears back on NRL agenda
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October 27, 2015 - 6:55PM
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The famous Bears name, logo and colours may be set for a return to the NRL, even if the foundation club's bid for a team on the Central Coast is again rejected.

While chief executive Greg Florimo insists the former North Sydney-based club remains focused on securing a licence for a Central Coast team, the priority has always been to have the Bears playing again in the NRL after being expelled at the end of the 1999 season.

Goal No.1 from the start has been to make sure the Bears brand is back in the NRL

Bears CEO Greg Florimo

With doubts over the financial viability of the Titans, there is support within the NRL for the team to become the Gold Coast Bears but Florimo said that was not currently being considered.


Respected rugby league administrator Steve Noyce (left) and Greg Florimo at the North Sydney Bears club earlier this year. Photo: Brendan Esposito

However, Florimo said any option that ensured the return of the Bears to the NRL would be considered if their 18-year bid for a team on the Central Coast failed to come to fruition.

"We've obviously put in [a] lot of time, money and effort, built a lot of goodwill and a lot of support for the inclusion of a Central Coast team into the competition and that is where we sit at the moment," Florimo said. "We're hopeful that the NRL is going to give us some direction on expansion and where we sit in the whole debate but obviously the No.1 intention for us is to keep the Bears brand alive.

"Until we hear anything different from the NRL we are full steam ahead with that bid, we have been driving very hard for the last six years and we are desperate for resolution at this point. But if the NRL came out and said there would be no expansion on the Central Coast we would have to look outside the square and goal No.1 from the start has been to make sure the Bears brand is back in the NRL."

The only hope of a franchise on the Central Coast being given the green light is if the NRL decides to create an extra game to increase the value of the pay-TV broadcast rights after selling four free-to-air games to Nine from 2018, although a second Brisbane side and another team in New Zealand or Perth would be more likely options.

Should any of those regions gain admission to the NRL ahead of the Central Coast, the Bears would strongly consider becoming involved provided the team played in black and red as the Bears and could offer juniors, supporters and a sound financial base.

However, some within the NRL believe the Bears could provide a solution to their problems with the Titans, while also giving the game a greater presence north of Sydney Harbour as Manly are the only club between the CBD and Newcastle, including the Central Coast.

Such a move would also alleviate the NRL's need to share the costs of the Titans' single biggest investor Daryl Kelly, who has so far spent more than $5 million of his own money keeping the club afloat.

The Bears already have a link with the Gold Coast as Seagulls Leagues Club at Tweed Heads is owned by the wealthy North Sydney Leagues Club, which provides grassroots funding and support for junior representative teams in both areas.

The return of the Bears would enable the NRL to recover some of the lost support for a club which helped start the premiership in 1908 and still boasts about 10,000 members, including 7881 on the Central Coast.

Fairfax Media was told that one proposal involved the team remaining as the Titans but playing in black and red jerseys for all Sydney matches, including two home games at North Sydney Oval – a model similar to that employed by Fitzroy and the Brisbane Bears in the early days of their AFL merger.

However, while the old AFL club merged with a relatively new one, the NRL scheme would be a foundation club coming back from the dead to join its newest entity.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ARL/NRL clubs on the Gold Coast are a proven failure. RIP Giants, Seagulls, Vikings, Chargers and the Titans conned their way in are are now on life support.
Stapling the Bears "brand" to the Titan's corpse in order to save the NRL having to contribute $, doesn't look to be in the Bears interests.
Better to replace the Titans with a second Brisbane club and have 18 clubs with the addition of the Central Coast Bears and Perth or NZ mark II.

The NRL should not be combining reactionary crisis management with expansion; if any of the existing clubs aren't viable, don't renew their licence
and let any new entrant start with a clean slate.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was worried that this article might make us look a bit mercenary to the people of the Central Coast.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.titans.com.au/news/2016/01/22/brian_canavan_appoin.html
Brian Canavan appointed as COO
Fri 22nd January, 2016

The Aquis Gold Coast Titans today announced the appointment of respected senior club executive, Brian Canavan, to the newly created position of Chief Operating Officer.

The creation of this role and the streamlining of the club's administrative structure is the final component of the internal review of the club's operations that began 18 months ago.

The new structure places the club on a more commercially focused and efficient footing with three key departments covering all aspects of the club's operations – Chief Operating Officer (including football), Commercial and Finance.

Chief Executive Officer, Graham Annesley, lauded Brian's appointment is a major coup for the Titans given his extensive experience in football operations, development and the administration of the game at the elite level.

"Brian is not only an experienced Rugby League administrator, he is also a quality individual who will further add to the public credibility of this club as we continue to rebuild and improve", Mr Annesley said.

"Over the course of his 18 years at the Roosters, Brian has been an integral part of the management of one of the most successful clubs in the game. His acquisition by the Titans is as important as any other made in the club's short history."

Brian, who grew up on Queensland's Darling Downs, is a Bachelor of Human Movement Studies (education) graduate with a Rugby League Level 4 Coaching Certificate and a post graduate certificate in sport medicine.

Following a 10-year teaching career he became involved in rugby league, working with Queensland and National Rugby League clubs, Queensland Maroons State of Origin and rugby league's governing bodies. His involvement in the sport has covered the areas of management, senior coaching, strength and conditioning and junior participation development.

In recent times Brian was Chief Executive Officer of Sydney Roosters club before becoming a special projects consultant for the Australian and National Rugby Leagues, working with national and state governing bodies. He returned to the Roosters in late 2012 as Chief Operating Officer, Football.

Brian's starting date will be confirmed in coming days but it is hoped to have him on board as soon as possible after his relocation from Sydney.

Brian Canavan's resume

· Secondary school teacher (eight years) plus Senior Assistant to Principal - 1978-1987

· Broncos:- Strength and Conditioning Coach/Development Manager - 1988-89

· Cronulla Sharks - Assistant Coach/ Football Manager 1992-93

· Qld State of Origin Coaching staff - Strength and Conditioning Coach 1989-1994

· Sydney Roosters Rugby League Club (15 years, 1994-2008) in roles as Assistant Coach, Football Manager and CEO

· Australian/National/State Bodies Rugby League Special Projects Consultant 2009-2012

· Sydney Roosters Rugby - Chief Operating Officer – Head of Football Club reporting to the Easts Group CEO and Easts Group Board 2012-present

Related Board and Committee Memberships

· Rugby League Research Board – Chairperson 2007 to present

· Australian Rugby League Development Foundation (ARLD) - inaugural Board Member, 1999-2012

· Country Rugby League Audit and Risk Committee - Chairperson 2015 to present

· NSWRL Second Tier Structure/Competitions Review Committee 2015 to present

· University of NSW Education Advisory Committee (sport high schools) – 2015 to present

· Australian Institute of Management (Fellow) 2002 – present
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

all good points.

but as a seq resident, and having totally abandoned hope of ever seeing bears in the top flight, I'd (selfishly) take it.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Likewise from a Far North Coast resident.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If this happens, a massive continental sized IF then I feel for the 17 yo kid from say Runaway Bay who has been going for the Titans since they started, who wears the jersey with pride and cops it at school for not going for the Red Hill Donkeys.

I know they haven’t been around 100 years (Tweed Heads Seagulls have) and since 1988 the area has had multiple entities/owners, colours, grounds, name etc. But the current incarnation has built a following because there was continuity of brand.

Fiscal soundness they have never had (it’s a GC thing) and Sydney HQ will only have so much patience and $ before they take the solution of least resistance and that could still well be a cashed up Palmer-lite Queenslander who has actually substantial backing (even with the real Palmer and Tinkler examples to ponder) and not us.

That said, while I can see some on the Central Coast feeling underwhelmed by this, ultimately we have been given crumbs of hope re a Central Coast NRL Team from officialdom for 15 years and unless a 4 team expansion happens next, we aren’t getting back as 2nd Brisbane playing at Lang (Western Corridor - Ipswich or North Brisbane - Sunny Coast) and a Perth team are locked in I feel.

Ultimately (even though I just left SEQ after 19 years) I’ll support the NRL team wearing Red and Black called the Bears who have North Sydney as their Reserve Grade, culture, history and lifeblood. Bring on the GC Bears, our colours and all. We’ll get the Burleigh Bears to change their ‘Manly’ colours and we can have three ‘North Sydney’ feeds.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess your leaving SE Q means we won't be having that beer at the Caxton.

If this doesn't happen this time, and like you I think it is a big IF, I will be pushing a walker or pushing up daisies.

The BSB commented that the Bears Fans are getting older, and as they have just had the 50th Anniversary of my year leaving NSTHS, I can relate to that.

I would be surprised if the NRL would fall for the Tinkler - Palmer option, but nothing would surprise.

The traditional Leagues Club seems to work for other clubs and at least we have a presence there with Seagulls.

Let's hope the Board at Norths Leagues are more sympathetic than last time and realise what Norths Leagues was built for in the 1950's - to promulgate Rugby League. .
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Northern,

We are getting older, Crowie doesn’t do reunions but I pretty much did the 3 unit Modern History exam and talked cold war the week the Berlin Wall came down, that’s ancient history now.

No the Caxton isn’t ruled out, we still plan to come back to Qld (probably), we rented the house and I have a 20 yo daughter living in Brisbane still.
Either way we get back in, I’m flying back for the Bears v Red Hill superleaguers.

I expect angrybear to be there.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the info is out and the excitement has jumped up everywhere. Old Bears Fans are coming ouf of the woodwork to sniff the possibility.
So here is my biggest question:
The Gold Coast have always struggled to keep a team. This last bid was well planned and had great backing, yet it still fell on its arse. Putting the Mighty Bears up there, could hammer us for good. If the team can play as some suggested, half its home games on the GC, one at NSO and the rest on the CC, its going to be amazing.
The doughnut punchers left the CC to go back to manly, so could The Mighty Bears relocate to the CC, if the GC doesnt work?
I can understand ruling out a return to Sydney, though moving to a region like the CC should at least be allowed.
Four incarnations of the Gold Coast team have failed, I'd hate to see the Bears get back in then suffer the same fate, without a CC escape clause.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BearsFanDave wrote:
Four incarnations of the Gold Coast team have failed .....

I assume the four are the Seagulls, Giants, Chargers and Titans? There was also the Gold Coast Gladiators which, according to Wikipedia, existed between the Seagulls and the Chargers and took part in the 1996 World Sevens competition:

"The Gold Coast Club's licence was bought out by local property millionaire and entrepreneur Jeff Muller before the start of the rugby league season and, after some initial deliberation during which it was mooted the club would become known as the Gold Coast Gladiators. The team was moved to its namesake, the Gold Coast, and were based at Carrara Stadium. With new jersey colours, the club then enjoyed some immediate success in winning one of the minor trophies at that year's pre-season World Sevens tournament, both the club's and the Gold Coast sporting fraternity's first title of any description. However, after having gone through a handful of chief executives, five coaches and some court battles, Muller's licence was revoked by the ARL and they moved in to administer the club before the start of the 1996 ARL season." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_Coast_Chargers#Gold_Coast_Gladiators
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL, more history to learn... though there was also news of the Gold Coast Vikings, which I've never heard of.

Maybe the Gold Coast has a higher level curse on it than NSO does.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually you should probably count the Seagulls twice at least. They would have reverted to them before the Titans.

The financial failure of the Chargers followed by that Seagulls team lead the vote up north to divorce the North Sydney Football Club from the Leagues Club.
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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2016 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greg Florimo was on the Sunday Footy Show relating to the Gold Coast Bears opportunity.
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2016 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

girvie wrote:
Greg Florimo was on the Sunday Footy Show relating to the Gold Coast Bears opportunity.


Very brief interview here ...

https://www.9now.com.au/nrl-sunday-footy-show/2016/clip-cino1so2e000z0emxhdbgc044
NRL Sunday Footy Show 2016
Around the Grounds: 1st May 2016
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