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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 8:18 am    Post subject: Why The Demise Of Bears Has Roosters Officials Worried Reply with quote

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Why The Demise Of The North Sydney Bears Has Sydney Roosters Officials Worried
Brad Walter
Sports Reporter
April 13, 2016


Long memory: Sydney Roosters chairman Nick Politis. Photo: James Alcock

Remember the North Sydney Bears?

Long-serving Sydney Roosters chairman Nick Politis does and he is desperate for his club to avoid the same fate as the Bears after they left North Sydney Oval to move to Gosford in 1999 and went broke waiting for their new stadium to be built.

"That was the end for them; that was the nail in the coffin," Politis said. "It is OK to say 'do this, it is not the end of the world', but it is the end of the world because they can't even tell us where we are going to play, or train."

The Roosters supremo fears the club will struggle to retain members and corporate sponsors if it is forced into a nomadic existence for the four years it is estimated the construction of a new stadium on the site of Allianz Stadium will take.

"Where are we going to go, because there are three clubs – Sydney FC, the Waratahs and us – so how would we fit in at ANZ Stadium when they have already got South Sydney, Canterbury, Wests Tigers and other clubs there?" Politis said.

"Do they want us to be like gypsies and live out of caravans while we play a couple of games at the central coast, maybe the SCG and six or seven games at ANZ Stadium? You really destroy your support because you are all over the place."

Former North Sydney chief executive Bob Saunders said the Bears saw the move to Gosford as a great opportunity to secure their future, but wet weather and construction delays left them without a regular home ground and led to the club's demise after they failed to meet the NRL criteria when the competition was cut to 14 teams, because of their debts of $4 million.

Splitting their home games between four venues, the Bears attracted crowds as low as 3382 at Suncorp Stadium, 4705 at Parramatta Stadium, 5043 at North Sydney Oval and 8032 at the then 110,000-capacity Olympic Stadium, now known as ANZ Stadium.

"It was difficult to get our fans to appreciate all of the different venues that we had to use," Saunders said. "The then North Sydney sponsors stayed on board but getting new sponsors was very difficult when you were in that nomadic situation where you are going from one ground to another ground.

"That didn't help getting new sponsors and getting new season ticket holders, which is probably more important in today's climate than they were then. Memberships 20 years ago was something that everyone dreamed of, but these days that is very important to clubs."

Roosters chief executive John Lee estimated that membership sales provided one-third of the revenue of NRL clubs.

"It is a major pillar to fund all of your operations, so to be put out of your home is one thing but to lose members and to lose revenue has a major impact on how you do business and how you run your club," Lee said.

However, former North Sydney president David Hill, who left the board before the club decided to move to Gosford, said the Bears were victims of poor management and politics arising from the Super League war with News Corporation.

"There wasn't any need for North Sydney to go into administration, they were not insolvent," said Hill, who later headed the Save The Bears movement, which attempted to stop the ill-fated merger with Manly to form the Northern Eagles.

"The reason they were not insolvent is because at the time the North Sydney Football Club, which declared itself insolvent, had six of the nine board members of the leagues club, which was awash with money."

Hill said he supported the decision by NSW premier Mike Baird to refuse to build a new stadium opposite Allianz Stadium.

"For the past 20 years, the SCG Trust has increasingly taken public park land that is part of Moore Park and Centennial Park," Hill said.

"This is just another ploy for the SCG Trust to take over more of Moore Park because what they are saying is we need to allow the current users of the stadium to continue using the stadium so we will have to build the new stadium somewhere else."
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah - the good old days of the STB.

Good on you David for pointing out again the rorts that sent the Bears out of the League - largely manufactured by our own so-called Board.

Not only were the Bears not insolvent the lease of Graham Park made the football club arguably the wealthiest in the League but Max Donnelly the News Limited administrator gifted the Lease to Singleton for $2 million after his bogus promises that he supported the Bears' return.

What a farce!!!

As for Politis grandstanding and dragging the bears in to justify his opportunism - - again seems like old times.
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2016 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We were marked after going anti tobacco at NSO and upset the inner sanctum at Phillips st headed by the Manly filth. (boys club)

We crossed the line with the private handshakes and went against the games main sponsor..Winfield. From then we were gone.

They couldn't allow us to succeed and any chance they got they screwed us over.

So much for ''staying loyal'' against super league. They knifed us in the back and if we did go to super league we would have survived and possibly Manly gone broke without bailout money.

Why wouldn't you hate that plastic maroon bastion of corruption?
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2016 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

woodenspoon wrote:
We were marked after going anti tobacco at NSO and upset the inner sanctum at Phillips st .....

Good on David Hill and the North Sydney Bears for making this stand.

The ARL always defended the smoking sponsorship by saying it was a legal product. The question they should have asked is "is tobacco a product that we want rugby league to be associated with?". I bet if one of the porn chains in the ACT became the sponsor of the Canberra Raiders that we wouldn't have heard anything from the ARL about it being ok because it was advertising a "legal product".

Declaration: Both my father and brother died of smoking related illnesses - my father, at 70, from emphysema, and my brother, at 49, from ischemic heart disease. My father smoked since he was a teenager and while he gave up in his mid-50s, the damage was done and for the last ten years of his life he couldn't walk 25 metres without stopping to catch his breath.

woodenspoon wrote:
So much for ''staying loyal'' against super league. They knifed us in the back and if we did go to super league we would have survived and possibly Manly gone broke without bailout money.

As I've mentioned before, most of the clubs that stayed loyal to the ARL got done over, and the ones who crossed to Super League all survived, apart from Western (Perth) Reds. The seven defectors continue to exist in their own right - Auckland (now NZ Warriors), Brisbane, Canberra, Canterbury, Cronulla, North Queensland and Penrith. Hunter Mariners and Adelaide Rams were SL creations so they were always expendable. Melbourne was a SL creation although didn't actually take part in SL.

By contrast, of the twelve clubs who stayed loyal, only three survived initially - Parramatta, Newcastle and Sydney Roosters. Three were cut - Gold Coast Chargers, South Sydney and South Queensland - and the other six were merged - St George/Illawarra, Balmain/Wests and North Sydney/Manly.
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