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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:54 pm    Post subject: Gold Coast Bears articles Reply with quote

A couple of articles today about the Gold Coast Bears:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/nrl/heavy-hitter-behind-bears-bid-to-buy-titans/news-story/4c133a40e95abcf4f2baa7c0db0b912a

https://www.triplem.com.au/sport/nrl/news/the-bears-are-set-for-a-return-to-the-nrl
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are the chances of this happening, will NSL's have any share of the franchise?

Thoughs ?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks girvie. The one from the Australian is behind a paywall.

I'm not that wrapped in the Gold Coast Bears proposal. I think it's a bit predatory. There are a lot of people who really love the Gold Coast Titans yet we're proposing to steamroller over them. Also the Gold Coast has not been kind to top level rugby league clubs - there have been five different Gold Coast rugby league teams, including the Gladiators which competed in the 1996 pre-season. I would hate the Gold Coast Bears to be added to this list.

Giants 1988-89
Seagulls 1990-95
Gladiators 1996 (pre-season)
Chargers 1996-98
Titans 2007-present

I'll support the Gold Coast Bears if it happens, but I'm really not keen on it.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They may have read the press as the GC just lost a first grade match by their biggest margin.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:14 am    Post subject: Perry Lopez speaks to Gold Coast Paper Reply with quote

THE North Sydney Bears say their bid for the Titans will help a Gold Coast NRL team become a truly sustainable product by bringing another “metropolis” to the potential supporter base.

The Bears are ready to submit a tender for the Titans when the NRL officially announces the process, something that is expected to happen as soon as next week after the successful sale of the Newcastle Knights.

If successful with their bid, the Bears are planning to play 11 of their 12 home games on the Coast and chairman Perry Lopez says the foundation club’s tender should not be seen as a takeover.

Instead, he has likened it to the South Melbourne Football Club’s transition to the Sydney Swans, with the history and supporters of the foundation organisation integrated into the new outfit, while adding a new population base of fans to help the club grow.

“If you look at the Swans and South Melbourne, when the South Melbourne Football Club folded and decided that they had to change or else they would die, they came to Sydney,” Lopez said.

“The Sydney Swans have always maintained that they are part of the South Melbourne Football Club.

“And the South Melbourne Football Club is always part of the Swans.

“(The Bears buyout of the Titans) is the same model. It drives two communities together to ensure the sustainability of a club and a fantastic football region in the Gold Coast and now we can have an emerging region on the North Shore.

“It’s really fantastic opportunity for rugby league.”
Action from a Gold Coast v North Sydney match at North Sydney Oval in 1995.

The NRL has made it clear it wants a club on the Gold Coast and any Bears buyout would not include a relocation of the club.

“This isn’t about taking rugby league away from the Gold Coast, that’s got to be driven out of the communication,” Lopez said.

“It’s not about a North Sydney takeover at all.

“This is about a Gold Coast franchise driving sustainability, IP, heritage club, colours and it’s a similar, if not the same kind of model you’ve seen with the Swans.

“And look how prosperous they’ve become.”

A successful Bears bid would mean the end for the Titans brand though.

The Bears moniker would be used, along with the club’s intellectual property, logos and branding giving the Gold Coast its sixth incarnation after the Giants, Seagulls, Gladiators, Chargers and Titans.

It’s the point that will be the hardest sell for the Bears consortium, with the NRL wary of more change after a period of relative stability after the financial troubles that almost sent the club under more than two years ago.

But Lopez said change was needed.

“(The Titans) have done a great job to get to where they are today but I think we need to rethink how rugby league is going to survive and prosper on the Gold Coast,” he said.

“When you look at membership for example, you need to be growing membership to a point where you can get to 20,000 and drive additional revenues for the club and foot traffic.

“I just don’t think it’s do-able on the Coast.

“You need a new model, a model that’s going to bring another metropolis and that’s what this does.

“The colours and the IP that this new consortium can use brings all of the people who were Bears supporters back into the fray and they get an opportunity to become part of a club again.

“That means revenue, that means more people coming to games, more eyeballs on the TV, it just is a fantastic model.”

The Bears are far from the only option though.

Titans White Knight and current board member Darryl Kelly has assembled a group of local businesspeople - including the family of chairwoman Rebecca Frizelle – ready to support the club to stay on the Coast and has a business plan he believes can be at least cost neutral.

Two other Gold Coast groups are also understood to be interested to tender when the NRL officials puts the club to sale.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:18 am    Post subject: Sporting News - Bears take Giant Step to comeback Reply with quote

The North Sydney Bears are one step closer to making an anticipated return to the NRL, creating a consortium to help try and take over the Gold Coast Titans.

Speaking on Triple M, The Australian's Brent Read revelead the club's plan was to eventually imprint their logo on the Titans and rename them the 'Gold Coast Bears'.

"Basically what's happened is the Bears have set up this consortium and I think they've given the consortium the rights to their logo and colours," Read said.

"And the idea is that they will take the colours and logo and try to buy the franchise from the NRL.

"It will be based in the Gold Coast but will play one game a year at North Sydney Oval and be the 'Gold Coast Bears'.

"Their argument is that you get the best of both worlds - you get the team on the Gold Coast and the Bears back in the competition."

Peter Wiggs, owner of $2 billion company Archer Capital, is believed to be on the consortium and prepared to buy the Titans' licence off the NRL.

The news comes after the NRL recently sold off the Knights to Wests Group.

Bears chairman Perry Lopez likened it to the South Melbourne Football Club’s transition to the Sydney Swans.

“If you look at the Swans and South Melbourne, when the South Melbourne Football Club folded and decided that they had to change or else they would die, they came to Sydney,” Lopez said last month.

“The Sydney Swans have always maintained that they are part of the South Melbourne Football Club.

“And the South Melbourne Football Club is always part of the Swans.

“(The Bears buyout of the Titans) is the same model. It drives two communities together to ensure the sustainability of a club and a fantastic football region in the Gold Coast and now we can have an emerging region on the North Shore.

“It’s really fantastic opportunity for rugby league.”

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:58 pm    Post subject: Now is the time to get loud Reply with quote

North Sydney Bears officials have commissioned independent ­research that suggests the club still have 500,000 supporters in Queensland and NSW, figures they believe strengthen their consortium’s case to buy the Gold Coast licence.

The Bears are backing a consortium of wealthy businessmen with North Sydney connections (among them are private equiteer Peter Wiggs and Gold Coast businessman Harry Cheung), having granted the group the right to use the colours and moniker of the foundation club.

They face a significant challenge to convince the NRL of the merits of their bid, given the governing body’s reluctance to tinker again with the club’s colours and logo, let alone their desire to ensure the Gold Coast retain their local feel.

However, the Bears refuse to give up hope and are leaving nothing to chance, commissioning independent research through Nielsen to show how the Bears brand still resonates with the rugby league public.

It is understood they sent a mini-prospectus to potential parties when they were piecing together a consortium.

That prospectus contained independent research that demonstrated the ongoing support for the Bears, who played their final game in the premiership nearly 20 years ago.

More than 200,000 of the fans who still supported the Bears were at the top in terms of avidity — meaning they were more likely to watch on television or attend games. It is understood the research indicates they are eight times more likely to attend a game than a Gold Coast Titans supporter.

The NRL is yet to put the Titans on the market, although it is expected to do so later this month. It is waiting until it has finalised the future of the Newcastle Knights, who are expected to be bought by the Newcastle-based Wests Group in coming weeks.

Wests Group members are currently voting on the takeover of the Knights licence and it is understood they were 93 per cent in favour of the bid heading into the weekend.

Once the Knights have been ­finalised, the Titans will hit the market with several consortiums circling. The Bears are among them, along with former owner Darryl Kelly, who has put together a consortium of his own that is expected to include Titans chairwoman Rebecca Frizelle.

At least one and possibly two other consortiums are also in the mix.

The Bears refuse to give up hope as they look to awaken a fan base that has been in hibernation for nearly two decades. The uncertainty surrounding the Titans’ ownership comes as they reel from two of their worst performances of the season, their latest a thrashing at the hands of neighbours ­Brisbane.

The Titans finished that game with star halfback Ashley Taylor on the sidelines with a knee injury. Taylor left the ground in a brace and will undergo scans. At the very least, he is expected to miss their game against St George Illawarra this weekend.

Taylor’s future may yet hinge on the outcome of the battle for the Gold Coast licence. The Titans No 7 is off contract at the end of next season and while Brisbane have already expressed their interest in luring him home, other clubs are keeping a close eye on proceedings.

The consortium that eventually wins the Titans licence is likely to make Taylor’s retention a priority, given he is the sort of player the Gold Coast can build their club around.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 2:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Now is the time to get loud Reply with quote

BLOB wrote:
..... the club still have 500,000 supporters in Queensland and NSW ....

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More than 200,000 of the fans who still supported the Bears were at the top in terms of avidity — meaning they were more likely to watch on television or attend games. It is understood the research indicates they are eight times more likely to attend a game than a Gold Coast Titans supporter.

These figures seem rather high. It would be interesting to see the methodology behind the calcs. The combined population of NSW and Queensland is just under 12.7 million. To have half a million supporters in these two states means that 4% of the population supports the Bears. And that's on the generous assumption that all 12.7m are rugby league fans. Excluding the ones who don't follow rugby league means we need an even higher percentage of the remaining population to make the half million.

Paid up membership of the 16 NRL clubs is about 300,000. I don't know what proportion of supporters become club members, but say it's 2%. That means there are 15 million rugby league supporters Australia-wide (out of a population of 24.3m), which would give each NRL club 937,500 supporters. And NS is said to have have 500,000 in just NSW and Queensland? It would be good if it was true, but as I said, it seems high.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 3:06 pm    Post subject: NSB fOOTBAL CLUB MEETING 23 AUGUST 2017 Reply with quote

Norths Footy Club has called a meeting of members to explain their bid for an NRL franchise.

Things appear to be happening.....
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When is the meeting ?

Anyone going can give us an update.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When is the meeting ?

Anyone going can give us an update.

The meeting is on next Wednesday. The advice e-mailed to football club members is below.

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Important Information Night - Members Only

As you may be aware the North Sydney Bears are involved in bidding for an NRL licence, based out of the Gold Coast.

To provide an update on the bid, and to answer any questions the members may have, the Chairman and the Board of Directors of the North Sydney Bears would like to invite you to attend an information session at Norths, for members only.

Wednesday 23 August
6.30pm
Irvine Room
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:29 pm    Post subject: Emma Greenwood, @EmmaGreenwood12, Gold Coast Bulletin August Reply with quote

North Sydney Bears remain interested in buying Gold Coast NRL licence despite turmoil surrounding club
Emma Greenwood, @EmmaGreenwood12, Gold Coast Bulletin
August 21, 2017 12:32am
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THE North Sydney Bears have confirmed they are still preparing to launch a bid for the Gold Coast NRL licence, with no amount of turmoil able to shake their interest in the Titans.

Speculation and commentary over the future of embattled coach Neil Henry and his out of sorts star Jarryd Hayne have swirled relentlessly over the past week after Titans chief executive Graham Annesley and chair Rebecca Frizelle emerged from an emergency board meeting to declare they had made no decision on the future of the pair.

The delay has only increased the media frenzy over the past week though, with many arguing the Titans’ inaction has damaged the brand.

The NRL are set to take the Titans officially to market any day after the Wests Group’s takeover of the Newcastle Knights was overwhelmingly endorsed by their members.

And the Bears remain ready to enter negotiations with the league, undaunted by the Titans’ off-field woes.

Bears chairman Perry Lopez said the Bears interest in the franchise had not waned.

“We’re just waiting for the process to come out from the NRL, so nothing’s changed,” he said.

Lopez said blow ups like the one between player and coach happened from time to time in football clubs.

“That’s just typical of any sporting organisation every now and then to come across these hurdles,” Lopez said.

“You read it from afar and it’s all just a matter of speculation. For us, it’s just a matter of wait and see (when expressions of interest are called by the NRL).”

The Bears are set to share information on their plans with members at a meeting in Sydney on Wednesday night.

The club emailed members to invite them to a meeting “to provide an update on the bid and to answer any questions the members may have”.

Frizelle said the spotlight on the Henry-Hayne situation would not affect the interest in the sale of the club.

“I don’t think this is the first time we’re going to see a situation like this happen in a club,” she said.

“We’ve seen it before and we’ll see it again and we won’t be the last, it’s about how we address the issues at hand and how we move forward in the interest of the club.”

Titans board member and former part-owner Darryl Kelly also remains interested in buying the Titans despite their woes.

Kelly, who did not return calls to the Bulletin yesterday, is a member of the board that could decide as early as today the fate of Henry Hayne after a massive week of unrest at the club.

While senior players Ryan James, Kevin Proctor and Nathan Peats have fronted chief executive Graham Annesley to declare their support for Henry, speculation continues to mount the coach will not see out the final year of his contract in 2018.

Any action though will have to be green lighted by the NRL, who still own the club despite preparing for its imminent sale.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any updates from the meeting?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:46 pm    Post subject: Billy Moore weighs in -for Bears revival Reply with quote

IT’S crunch time on the Gold Coast.

The club is coachless and seemingly cursed. There’s Jarryd ‘the pain’ Hayne and a front office under fire.

But that’s not all.

As its stocks plummet, the ‘for sale’ sign is ready to go up. The NRL is taking the turbulent Titans to market, with a November 1 deadline looming large.

And there are potential suitors staying committed, despite recent events.

One interested buyer is a group led by Titans board members, including former part-owner Darryl Kelly.

But the glitter strip could be turned red and black, if the North Sydney Bears have their way.

The heritage club is also in the running.

And that’s the only way forward, according to Queensland-based Norths legend Billy Moore.

He believes the Bears bid is the solution.

“Yet again the sporting business model on the Gold Coast looks to be flawed,” he told foxsports.com.au.

“What the Bears do, we bring a solution. We bring a different business model.

“If you are able to couple up the Gold Coast franchise with the North Sydney Bears’ tradition, history and fan base, all of a sudden you have the impetus of a hundred thousand-plus fans being directly interested and buying into this new entity.”

Bears General Manager and past-player Greg Florimo is heading North Sydney’s bid.

Moore’s referring to a population of ‘dormant’ rugby league fans.

The Bears have been in hibernation since 1999, searching for a pathway back to the NRL.

And while supporters know better than to get too excited just yet, there is merit and momentum with this bid.

For those catching up, the NRL took hold of the Gold Coast licence in 2015, rescuing the club from serious financial strain.

And the governing body is ready to send the Titans back into the wild.

But should it be handed back to Kelly’s consortium? Moore has serious doubts.

“What’s the difference between new owners of the Gold Coast Titans to the past?” Moore asked.

“If you walk the same road, you’re going to see the same things.

“You can put lipstick on a pig, but what?

“Let’s just look at the Gold Coast’s history of sporting franchises. The business model is not sustainable and doesn’t work. There is no example of the business model of a Gold Coast stand-alone entity being able to survive.

Gold Coast Titans board member Darryl Kelly will spearhead the Titans’ consortium.

“You look at what’s happened at the Suns. That’s being artificially propped up by the AFL.

“You look at what’s happened with every other Gold Coast sporting franchise, including rugby league. It has been basically a graveyard.

“And that’s, fundamentally, where the Bears can help out.

“You have two communities, or entities, working together for a long-term, sustainable solution.”

Of course, the NRL would quiver at the thought of a fourth failed start-up on the Gold Coast.

The Titans’ time in the top grade has now lasted 11 seasons. But support has plateaued. Success has been scarce.

That’s why Moore sees the bid as a perfectly-timed opportunity. He pleads with the NRL not to focus on the negatives.

“How much is the Gold Coast Titans IP (intellectual property) worth?” Moore asks.

“If it comes down to simply rebranding, god help us.

“That, to me, can’t be anywhere near valuable enough to say, ‘no, we’re not going to enter into a conversation with the North Sydney Bears.’

“We have private investors who are prepared to put in a large sum of money. You have our Leagues Clubs as well, and you have the North Sydney junior base and the Gold Coast junior base, which will feed through for one thing — a Gold Coast Rugby League franchise NRL team.

“No business turns away a hundred thousand customers trying to get into your shopfront. That’s not smart business.

“Who loses with the Bears merging with the Gold Coast? Tell me who possibly loses.”

It’s expected the NRL will hand over the keys to the successful suitor on November 1.

And North Sydney’s club chairman Perry Lopez addressed members on Wednesday night.

So the process is about to really ramp up.

As for the Bears’ bid; “we’re strong and we’re ready to go.”
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